Dave Mays And Khalif Rainey Talk HipHop Week MKE Bridging Generations In The Culture

Breakfast Club morning everybody is de j MV Angela ye Charlemagne the guy we are to breakfast club he got some special guests in the building yes sir we have Dave Mayes who uh he talked about the sauce cover that were David's credit and founder of the Source magazine sauce magazine okay and co-founder of hip hop weekly absolutely David I gotta give you being accurate hip hop history Dave is a legend you gotta give me give me scrapes absolutely when it comes to hip hop absolutely created the Source magazine which was a staple and it's still a staple and we have Khalif Rainey here the councilman from Milwaukee yes sir alright now explain what you which you guys are here for it and what you try to do for Milwaukee well earlier this year I was contacted by ottoman Rainey he was telling me about his concept for the hip hop week and I got really excited about it for a number of reasons I mean it's the first city in America to ever create a week actually officially backed by the city devoted to hip hop the culture celebration but also as far as demonstrating how hip hop can be a force in the community and I think that's something that hip hop kind of got away from it was part of our DNA as the movement and the culture grew in the 80s and the 90s and we kind of got away from that and and his vision to bring it back I think is really powerful and then he could tell you a little bit more about the City of Milwaukee and why that's such a interesting place to do something like this because of statistically you know there's a lot of things about Milwaukee that people don't don't realize you don't hear about a lot in the conversation but it's you know pretty much one of the worst cities for black people in America by far on every statistic that you could you know measure yeah it's one of the most segregated cities right it's one of the most segregated I saw Angela on the show not too long ago she discussed we have the highest incarceration rate of african-american men in the country that's actually in a zip code in which I represent well we have one of the largest disparities between income between the white family and a black family educational gap between a black student a white student so when you talk about no government you often hear that cliche about let's meet people where they had and that's really what we're doing this platform I noticed a bunch of people in the committee who are a political who are disenchanted with government so what I'm trying to do is take the platform of hip-hop and engage them in conversations about their health about their finances these are envy who be coming out to do a workshop alone brother state investing in financial endeavors that we could partake in so we really just taking the platform beyond celebrating the culture be more we want to put the medicine to peanut butter so to speak and get people to think differently about no sense those issues why did you feel like a movement like hip-hop you know hip hop week was the first course of action that needed to be taken for these you know things like segregation and incarceration why that you know honestly you know I just really wanted to kick it for a week you know we did a hip hop week right and then my wife is like yo you got it you got to make sense of it right and when I really started looking at it the parity between you know finances you know hip hop is all about talking about our money how to get our money right you know when I saw with the health bar Quincy Jones Arthur and I saw different personalities with a hip hop that really made me think twice about you know my health before that it really didn't resonate you know so for me personally I think that it just makes those conversations more palatable for our generation and for our community so this is year two last year we had a cool hurt he came out we had Ghostface we had a bunch of personalities that really created a lot of excitement in the city because Milwaukee's not really a city that's known for hip-hop I love Bill walking man yeah saw Bailey Comey was mentioning your book I've always had some great times in Milwaukee I got actually Phil I was out did filming catfish for like a week yeah I remember that episode you'll be back on the twelve right with Styles P for the mental health fair with me yes I am you know Dave maze called he reached out and was like he told me what he was doing and you know a lot of times we don't get a chance to get to Milwaukee's a smaller market but it's like it is so as so many of us there that's when he called and said let's do this financial literacy class talk about real estate and help some of the brothers out there that might not know their way in because most people want to hear real estate they think they need a lot of money to put down but it is it's there's so many different ways and so many different grants and so many different ways around getting but Milwaukee's also a market where the prices of houses are so cheap that you can actually purchase something and rent it out like you know real estate in Milwaukee what is it going for a roughly ballpark for a one-family in a decent area I mean it all depends and and that's one of the missions of hip hop week so as a common council member we come to possession the properties that that become the cities as a result of property tax foreclosure city of Yap so I want to bring those city departments whether it's the health department whether it's a real estate department the office of violence prevention I'm trying to bring those agencies to the table and really make the committee engage with them so I mean the city Milwaukee right now we're under undergoing somewhat of a renaissance with the building of the five serve form I know you guys saw the Bucks almost make it to the championship we was close you know but in some areas you know there's issues of gentrification like many other places in the country but then we also have our challenge and distressed neighborhoods where you can get some property at a very a very small amount and I can show you those opportunities when you come to the city as well is a great place to invest absolutely great great place on the great lake hmm I would love to do it like kind of like what Detroit did for you know people who live in that area they give it to him for a way cheaper price so that way they just have to fix it up to start rebuilding Milwaukee absolutely and that's what we that's what we'll talk about is some of that stuff and I would love that list of possibly give to some of the people that come to that seminar come to that workshop so they can start looking and preparing for themselves to stop buying at Milwaukee you know I know mark I know my colleagues would love to say no DJ envy is invested in my district that brings a lot of cachet to the city and Milwaukee was the first V 101.7 mm-hmm first station to syndicated breakfast clubs that are gonna be happening during that week so beyond these are gonna be coming to join us at G's Clippers to discuss financial literacy we got a stick man from their prayers he has a book out right now talking about being healthy and being vacant and lifting weights and we also have Scarface was running for kamma council in the city of Houston my god face indeed he's gonna be he's gonna explain the nexus between politics and hip-hop you know we're and about criminal justice reform but how do we really take it to the next level and start supporting candidates who reflect the things that we want to see within government and really changed our country now how you connecting with the younger generation with that though because I love Scarface I love stigma but I'm 41 yeah we got we got a bunch of activities that's really been taking off taking on by the community you know Washington Park Wednesday's we got a bunch of events with just the umbrella hip-hop week alone made the community decided they want to get involved so we got a very variety of offerings that's gonna speak to the young you know we also have artists like making the stallion and Kevin gates involved okay part of the hip-hop museum pop-up that I'm doing out there we have three nights of big events Meghan is the opening night and you know she's I really like her because she's one of these young artists that actually does have something to say when it comes to issues particularly she's been speaking out a lot about environmental issues and the beach cleanup that she did and things of that nature you all should be leading with the Meghan ax style you know yeah that's to be on the front of the fly yeah we have a women of hip-hop event taking place at the Marcus Performing Arts Center a bunch of local artists will be you know replicating those songs that we love is called ladies first absolutely yeah and I hope the whole purpose is to try to figure out how do we bridge and connect the older and the younger generations because to me that's one of the biggest challenges and obstacles we have is that we've become divided and you know by forces that have sort of separated us and if we can figure out how to connect back together we could be really powerful in particular with the hip-hop goes to the polls event which is on Saturday at the Wisconsin black Historical Society so it's Scarface and a lieutenant governor of the state of Wisconsin Mandela Barnes who's the first black man ever to hold that position in that state but when you look at the demographics of 18 to 55 year olds in America that represents over 60 percent of the electorate in next year's election and if you think about people between 18 and 55 it's easily the majority the vast majority have grown up on hiphop listening to the music but also being influenced culture so there's an undercurrent of between those that 60% of America that all shares certain perspectives based on you know their the influence of hip-hop and if we can get that current going I mean think of the power that that's 60% demographic hoes and all the people that love hip-hop if we got together and stood up for the issues that we want I mean basically my slogan is you know the hip-hop nation holds a trump card in 2020 if we can get organized we don't to see Trump Harlem come up with another another term for that you know they why do you think you never got the coach a vote you label coach well I mean because you know just I mean because of who my actions and what I did I mean the source was always just you know the most authentic media outlet and it was never just about money it was always about the culture and the streets and I always you know that was what I took pride and was being able to balance those things and a lot of times as we've all experienced going into the corporate world with hip-hop you know even though hip-hop has become you know what it's become today there's still a resistance to it is still a resistance to the streets and the street element and things like that and I always embraced that and understood that that comes you know with the territory and that's where hip-hop comes from so you can't turn your back on the streets and you know that's just me growing up in Washington DC you know just observing you know things from a young age and just becoming you know having that mentality y'all started at Harvard you know source was born out of my dorm room as a one-way newsletter while while I was hosting a radio show on Harvard's radio station that was playing all classical music at the time so but you know just just just all those reasons man I loved hip-hop and saw a vision back then of a generation of black white Latino Asian everybody that you know in the 80s we had that gone and where it could go and you know it's the world we're in today is what I kind of envisioned back then I haven't spoke to women in a few years you know really I decided to take some time off maybe about three years ago move back home to DC has some family things and just decided to regroup you know start something fresh and new so I have Dave Mays media now that's my new company this is one of the first ventures to partner with the City of Milwaukee on the hip hop week and then the hip hop Museum pop-up that I mentioned before you know hooked up with a guy in DC who had put an incredible collection of hip hop artifacts and memorabilia together geremy beaver and we created this hip hop Museum it's the world's first hip hop Museum it's a pop-up it's going to travel around the country and embrace you know not just the national but also the local hip hop in every city because in every city Milwaukee DC everywhere there's a history of people who have contributed to the culture whether you know them outside that city or not they've been loyal to the culture and done a lot for it so the pop-up hip hop music pop up is part of the idea is to be able to recognize both the legends that we all know and the people on a local level who've been contributing to the culture so all that's under Dave Mays media this is kind of the new you know new movement for me start over fresh same way you know I started with the source it was me my ideas and just looking to build the next phase or the legacy I see a lot of opportunity out here do you see there's going to other cities absolutely yeah I mean especially with the platform that Milwaukee has given us with the hip hop week you know I see the whole concept traveling to other cities after people see what we accomplished next week in Milwaukee between you and busy no Lauren no I mean you know we parted and you know like I said I'm doing my own thing and you know it's really just about me and just me trying to you know start some start some new things fresh things and kind of get back you know to a way of going about things that you know that's just my own vision of things and that's how I started and that's what I'm trying to do with the Dave Mays media and that no I know but I always wanted to know when you guys partnered up a lot of people felt that he had too much influence on a magazine and it was hurting the integrity of the magazine at one time did you ever believe that do you ever regret that because I know a lot of his I guess him being so outspoken created beef with you guys with Eminem at the time with 50 at the time and a lot of the do you ever believe that do you ever regret any of that well I mean let me say this I mean I started a source when I was like I said when I was at Harvard Benzino had a rap group up in Boston at the time that was one of the main most but when I was almighty ours so it was a most popular group in the city and you know I met him through my radio show and we became friends and you know the source went on he wasn't involved in the source for many years but that was my friend I was helping them as I could with their music and I was maybe eight ten years later that I actually brought him in to the source in the mid 90s and made him a partner with me in the company so you know I think a lot of people I mean you know there was a lot of things that happened that you know probably could have been handled differently or better but at the end of the day a lot of the issues that I was personally fighting for you know remain as far as the integrity of the music and the integrity of the culture and trying to keep you know keep that authentic as we go forward and I think we hit a point you know all myself included in the in the mid to late 90s where hip-hop sorta became just very commercialized after radio started playing it you know corporate radio and everything and many different factors became very much money driven and that's when the culture started to be forgotten about of some of the other aspects of it but you know I kind of realized that in the last five years or so I was at the source was like you know we got to really bring this back to what hip-hop is about and and a lot of those you know disputes two eminent they really had to do with a difference of opinion about those types of things and and it got perceived as being personal and maybe it did get personal and some things you know could have been handled better but you know we live and we learned and you know I'm here now and trying to you know rebuild something bigger and better than I did before documentary on the source again I heard that they were working on a documentary oh yeah who's that I don't know you know I you know I have some things in the works but I've heard rumors you know people have been trying to do that me this incredible story of the source of mean coming from a single page newsletter to what it represented and then you know me creating a source Awards starting that in 91 on your own TV raps and then building it up into what that became so you know it was a lot of you breeze by that as if the source Awards was not responsible for so many historic moments in hip-hop we are everybody pinpoint what is the 94th source of water or the 9595 was a survive as an on-duty and said the South got something to say South took off every day like I was big and again for people sometimes I would look this I mean that was me and that was the source recognizing outcasts when in an environment where it was all New York and nobody was really messing with the south but the source I went out of my way that's another reason I would say to to your earlier question like front of beginning I was not caught up in like a New York bias you know that really was prevalent and even maybe still somewhat till today but I went out of my way to make sure that we represented hip hop across the country and the purpose of the source Awards was to celebrate the culture but also to bring the hip hop world together in one room and I was a person that had those relationships with the J Prince's and the Master P's and the Suge Knight's and all the different players involved the Diddy's everybody that could bring everybody together in one place for common purpose and you know that's in a sense what I'm trying to bring back in Milwaukee I'm actually launching the hip hop legacy Awards in Milwaukee next Friday night and that'll be the first award so I've done in it it is honoring the legends so it's you know not as much incorporating the younger we have Benny to butcher that's going to be their performing we have a couple other younger folks that are involved to kind of create that bridge like I said and that's that's the struggling to challenges how do we get that bridge and get some respect to where you know these younger artists actually want to be in the hip-hop legacy Awards and want to be recognized in their future as they get bigger it's not just thinking about now but what it means and where you know where you could be with your career going forward that's not Dave this question when t-pain was a he talked about having 40 million dollars in the bank and then losing it all hmm did you ever lose it all oh yeah I mean uh yeah hi is what did you have what yeah what did you have well I mean the I owned a source a hundred percent okay for many many years until I invested heavily into the dot-com that was really the downfall for me at the source was when I invested heavily in the late 90s into the dot-com I really saw you know a vision of the digital world and being able to reach the hip hop fans all over the planet earth and you know unite them and and that was why I got excited but I was early the calm calm yet but I opened up new offices hired new people it was very early before there was really any type of money being able to be generated from it on the Internet so that kind of you know was sort of the set back of putting the company in debt but I mean the company was you know was worth quite a large sum of money you know probably you know I would say between 70 to 100 million people had estimates and you know I had different offers to sell it along the way never sold it took some private equity investors and ended up in the end basically losing everything I started over from scratch when I finally lost the source but you know again it was you know when you when you're an entrepreneur you got to take risks and you know that's what happens but do you regret not selling it like then no I mean I I don't live my life with regrets you know I I don't regret regret that I mean it's easy to look back now million or whatever in the bank or whatever but you know I believed in what I was doing and and I took that risk and you know I'm I'm fine with that you know what I mean and I still think what I can do going forward is going to be even greater and worth even more because the digital world the beautiful thing about this digital world is even though I mean all media is struggling okay in this digital media environment is there's hardly there's no business model that's working for people but it's it's leveled the playing field meaning that these huge conglomerates Viacom's and all these companies it's worth you know hundreds of billions of dollars they're basically you know you can compete with them you know if you have the right idea right now the world it's wide open and that's the beauty of it and that's what I see and I still see big opportunities and that's what I'm planning to come with behind all this stuff you know with next phase for Dave Mays media what's your opinion of digital impact on industry news like you prefer two days of research and distribution or do you like just the accessibility of the Internet I think you know I mean I like the way it is now I mean you know that's just the way the world you have to adapt to that no I like you know the speed of things and being able to find out information I mean of course you know we're suffering from accuracy but you know in a certain sense you know I think that was you know the media world has always held up this this image of being you know we're just about authenticity or you know independence and it's always really been driven by advertising dollars it's a lot more I think apparent today then it than it was so you know I think I think we just got to find a way to organize it and provide some credibility and get back to it to the days where you know a New York Times meant what it meant I mean even that is my point like they don't mean the same thing in the world as they once did everybody's kind of veneer has come off in this world for one reason or another and kind of been exposed but you know hopefully we can we can find some credible journalistic you know outlets that can can grow in the future and provide that for people so you still have great relationships with people that you work with in the past like you can call anybody up and be like look we got this week coming up in Milwaukee this hip-hop week I need you to be down and help support this and help it grow you can ask this gentleman I mean I think I've proven to him we know what the week I put together some of the talent that the same number when he calls I don't talk to everybody as much of course as I used to but you know I always had great relationships and I helped a lot of people I mean almost everybody you could name in hip-hop you know I helped him at the starts of their careers whether they were artists whether they were business people you know I always you know was about supporting young pee and you know their businesses and empowering them in ways you know that I could whether it was free advertisement or you know anything else I could do given the people coverage in the magazine that deserved coverage even though nobody else might would have covered them because they didn't have any money to pay for it or whatever so you know I have a lot of relationships still people that just respect me for you know how I ran my business at the source it's rare for people to remember that dog yeah you're right a lot of in this industry a lot of people forget about that yeah he didn't forget which is amazing great MB not well Dave hits me I say every five six years my start when I started out he held me you know me he put me in the sauce as a DJ when I did my album date you know I didn't have big budgets to promote my album they helped me out so when you when he calls you know that you answer the phone and you do what you can so oh yeah absolutely that's look I want to ask you guys I want to ask Dave one last question couldn't one glass because he was he lived it when glasses Malone was him all right glasses they're from just these four year period from 1992 in 96 Snoop Dogg was a bigger start in to parking it wasn't even close that four year span from 92 to 96 no no I mean maybe in 92 I mean but by 96 Park was much bigger star I mean you know Snoop was huge - but Park you know pop was bigger to me by 95 96 I mean certainly when he gone did throw that took him up but even before that I mean he was huge before that snoop snoop came out huge coming off the chronic and then his debut album but to me you know he sort of lulled a little bit after that and pop really to me it was was was the man you know those last few years of that period there I would say what about before you sign a death row part I mean yeah I mean the album right before I mean yeah he had he was huge before he went into jail that was when his career was you know was taken off and he was a superstar and you know and that was before death row so he was there you know those last two years and then you know that last he was really only on death row like a year yeah yeah all right well we appreciate you joining us give them information on how if they be involved if they want to get involved sponsor or attend the event how they can do that yeah yeah well we got the website hip hop week MK e.com you can go check out the schedule of everything going on all the events that I'm doing are at the rave so you can go to the rave calm if you want to come out to the Megan Italian and Kevin gauged they have Papa legacy awards or to see the hip hop Museum you know that's an incredible experience you know to have that but for hip-hop anyone who grew up on hip hop you know it's it's awesome to be able to walk through a museum and see all these things that remind you of different periods in your life and we've never had a hip hop museum you know people have been talking about it for many many years and you know there may be others coming in the future but this is something that's actually up and running right now that travels and people can come and see it and experience it so I think that's a highlight as well of the week in Milwaukee well t-shirts over here to breakfast okay 2019 hip hop weekend ket sugar I want fall yeah thank you also follow me at at the real Dave Mays and that Dave Mays meeting on on IG okay well this Dave Mays is Khalif Rainey it's the Breakfast Club good morning [Music]