we're a long way out from the election but Rudd is probably going to move isn't he he's looking like it what does your nose tell you oh I don't think he's ever given up the idea of coming back and that's human nature and understandable I think there's a real possibility they'll bring him back in the end leadership is determined by the laws of arithmetic and even the most popular leaders can be removed if people think they're going to do better under another one and the laws of arithmetic say that Gillard can't win but Rudd camera well that is the indication of some of the polls although once he were back in the job if that was their intention then he'd be revisited with the policy fighters which is responsible like the chaos of Border Protection and and and the wasteful expenditure on pink bats and school halls and so for them and they will happen under his regime not under Gillard's